TRANSCRIPT

'They locked us up in the train. Well, Bert's parents when they came six weeks earlier with the family, they put them in jail overnight and locked the door.'
Interviewer: Did they explain why at all?
'No. No, no. But there was one man with us in the train who had been before in Canada and he was smart enough that he got out the window and opened the door. So they gave us a package of sandwiches from the boat, but the meat was [unclear] in half a day, so when we got out of the train we could go to a snack bar and got some food.'