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One of the first tapes I made in the seventies was about recycling garbage, it's everyday now but nobody thought of it then. Now it's called "sustainability". We have all kinds of different words for it. Now it is part of the mainstream and it is commercialized.

A lot of those things back then weren't about commercializing, it was about changing peoples everyday lives. And look where we have gone with it now. There's been even less a stronger movement... at least we're talking about sustainability, overshooting our footprint by 50 percent. Those were all issues I think that people... and empowering the disenfranchised.